tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1175530035414490569.post7800750937717828860..comments2024-03-22T12:17:50.789+01:00Comments on The corridor of uncertainty: Flitting from MOOC to MOOCAlastair Creelmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15437257475474703309noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1175530035414490569.post-45732428659354507872014-02-10T08:55:15.090+01:002014-02-10T08:55:15.090+01:00I agree that the wiki platform does seem a bit clu...I agree that the wiki platform does seem a bit clunky compared to many LMS and I can imagine that some newcomers to open education may get a bit confused at first. I like the feel of the MOOCs using Canvas but I respect OERu trying to keep their courses on truly open platforms. It's tricky to find the right balance.Alastair Creelmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15437257475474703309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1175530035414490569.post-38208621547325386992014-02-07T16:35:06.453+01:002014-02-07T16:35:06.453+01:00I think you've caught some of the problems of ...I think you've caught some of the problems of working with MOOCs well here Alistair. I'm finding a tension between completion and interest as well - I want to explore byways, but I find deadlines coming. I must say too that I don't find the Wiki environment the easiest to get around, and I'm not sure I would use it if I was running a MOOC. I like the idea of a PLE, but I don't find it easy to ground myself, or track down other people's contributions. johnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00465446393475530335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1175530035414490569.post-78125933604034040372014-02-07T08:16:59.329+01:002014-02-07T08:16:59.329+01:00Thanks for the comments. We tend to focus too much...Thanks for the comments. We tend to focus too much on the "course" aspect of MOOCs expecting participants to follow the given schedule and complete the assignments on time. Those time restrictions can be imposed on a regular course where there's a contract between student and university but in a MOOC there's no agreement at all. It's my schedule on my terms, not the university's. I like the idea of more open ended MOOCs where I can still follow the course without feeling guilty about already being x days/weeks behind the rest.Alastair Creelmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15437257475474703309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1175530035414490569.post-34891168646547937632014-02-06T22:22:38.572+01:002014-02-06T22:22:38.572+01:00Another thoughtful #OCL4Ed post - Thanks Alastair....Another thoughtful #OCL4Ed post - Thanks Alastair. <br /><br />To be honest -- I don't think attrition in open online courses is a useful metric. A visitor who pops into an open course and posts a contribution, can potentially offer a degree of peer-learning support by virtue of open sharing of ideas. I think that's valuable for learning.<br /><br />Running open online courses in the WikiEducator community since 2007 - our data suggests that a 2 week course is about right before attrition rates of free learners increases noticeably. We're building this into the OERu delivery model through the incorporation of "micro" courses where micro refers to a sub-component of a full credit course. As mentioned above -- the learners who pop into a course out of self interest provide valuable peer learning support for those learners who are taking the course for full credit. Our micro-courses are designed to incorporate a 2-week block of interaction with the remaining learning hours focusing on the summative assessment piece. Wayne Mackintoshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15576811915197754933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1175530035414490569.post-1648959927131632582014-02-06T21:33:56.293+01:002014-02-06T21:33:56.293+01:00Thanks for the previous post quoting Lord Putnam&#...Thanks for the previous post quoting Lord Putnam's latest utterance. His example of primary school teachers sharing a million lesson plans (71% of which were user generated) could be a great example of successful OER use.Malcolm Murrayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14059281634579717800noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1175530035414490569.post-20658926470115315492014-02-06T21:30:42.804+01:002014-02-06T21:30:42.804+01:00More seriously, I think that the people who have p...More seriously, I think that the people who have posted their final assignments already are missing the point. Surely the real value of courses such as #OCL4Ed are the discussions that occur amongst participants, and these are best when people chew over the issues for a while rather rush to post, tick the box and jump immediately to the next assessment without much time for thinking. I don't think a MOOC is a race, unless you want to emphasize the need for commitment and sustained effort, in which case you could call it a marathon (though don't expect a medal at the end). Malcolm Murrayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14059281634579717800noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1175530035414490569.post-24230180928953810672014-02-06T19:55:25.852+01:002014-02-06T19:55:25.852+01:00Don't get me started on our football team Malc...Don't get me started on our football team Malcolm :-) Alastair Creelmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15437257475474703309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1175530035414490569.post-25648740982311117952014-02-06T19:05:04.358+01:002014-02-06T19:05:04.358+01:00Great post Alastair. As a fellow Scotsman (also wo...Great post Alastair. As a fellow Scotsman (also working in a foreign country now) I would like to explore the issue of passion more. Yes it is important and is a key part of what makes any great teacher, but to look at the Scottish Football Team passion alone is no guarantee of success! You also need a degree of professionalism to reflect on your success and failures and learn from them. Perhaps that explains why Scotland's teachers do better than her footballers :-)Malcolm Murrayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14059281634579717800noreply@blogger.com